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PirateJoe's avatar

Development engineer (me) to sales engineer: "You said it could do WHAT?"

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M.Dagni's avatar

It happens all the time 😑

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Dave Reed's avatar

It's not real software until someone uses it inappropriately. 😈

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Diana Castaño's avatar

Don't forget your tools for the job Bob!! 😇🔨🔨🥽🧤⛓️⚰️🔥(there's not such a thing as too many hammers for this job 😇😇)

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Rich's avatar

I'm currently developing an app that I haven't been given a ConOps for. Always a good time.

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Pedro's avatar

Harsh truth again. We know that inside the head of any of the business areas it feels like it is so easy to implement things. There is so much about aligning IT to Business but too little about aligning Business to IT. Hollywood plays against us with teenagers invading high security plants or implementing elaborated mobile apps in minutes. Now threre is this promisse of AI cutting development corners. I have been through that kind of situation once in the 2000s' and lost many weekends due to overpromissing / oversales. Colleague developers beware and set alerts beforehand in your organizations or you will work as slaves.

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Dave Reed's avatar

There are humorous escalations in every company I've ever worked at from someone who's convinced that "It shouldn't take six months to JUST PUT A BUTTON RIGHT THERE." 🙄

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Han O'Neam's avatar

You sold it with no IT reviewing nor questionning ? Implement it by yourself, I have no concern.

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Dave Reed's avatar

I've lived on both sides of that particular gauntlet. 🥊 They're both wrong. 😏

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zBH1yM7o's avatar

Could you please share the point of view of both sides and what's wrong with it?

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Dave Reed's avatar

Sure.

POV 1: I win. You lose.

POV 2: Nuh-uh. I win. You lose.

😏

Seriously, though.

Sales: You have to build this thing you haven’t built yet or they won’t buy anything.

Engineering: You have to sell them what we already built, not stuff we could build.

Sales is not looking for the right customers for the products they have, just the customer they have right now (that they just met at the bar).

Engineering isn’t building for customers; they’re building for executives who think they talked to a customer once at the yacht club.

Both are doomed because the incentives at most companies are misaligned.

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John's avatar

This. Management: no you can’t have the funding you asked for despite the business case you slaved over and carefully researched. Sales: I’ve sold it. Management: you’ll have to rework your backlog to fund it.

Grr.

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ray's avatar

Dangerous when there are alternate truths... Imagine a society where people lie all the time. There will be a time when lies influence other people to believe the lies creating their truth... Alternate truth = lies reinforced lies where lies/time, where time is << 1.

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zBH1yM7o's avatar

Imagine?! 😄

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